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essed...love it....speaking of funk and emotions [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/22/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 220 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 8,800 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,496.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 30 [B]Hrs:[/B] 17 [B]Mins:[/B] 49 [B]Seconds:[/B] 48
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Here is more of Josie's response on anger in quitting. Not sure if it's the whole post, but at least more of it. Afraid to turn into a bear when quitting? Maybe you've quit and it's already happened? Explosive, quick to anger over little things? Unexpected outbursts? You are not alone, but rather one of many. What happens? People in recovery do have ups and downs, and sometimes more downs than ups unless they adopt new ways of coping, none of which happen overnight. We keep saying that quitting is a process. Anger may play an unexpected role for you in this process, and better coping skills need to be developed to deal with this also. When many smokers and dippers quit, they go through changes that require some unmasking. Take anger, for instance: As nicotine addicts, we might have swallowed our anger, or lit up/chewed rather than make a scene when something really irked us. It might have been easier and less stressful than engaging in confrontation about some problem. I'm confident that most smokers and dippers who were "put in their place" can remember exhaling the smoke slowly at some time or other to decompress. They puffed or chewed away for dear life rather than say their piece and end up getting fired from a much-needed job, to offer one example, or be in an in-laws bad books forever, to name another. In such anger, a nicotine fix became the crutch, the comforter and the savior of sorts, and quite a coping mechanism! (Or so we thought anyway.) Get my drift? With the giving up (and loss from our lives) of that lifelong 'all-round friend' the cigarette, we literally go through mourning with all its stages, including the stage of sadness and anger. Quitting is a major loss, both physically and psychologically, and in addiction, a quitter will naturally mourn that loss for a little while, until they freely accept the quit and adopt it, just letting go of smoking or chewing. But besides that mourning, there are also things that can naturally trigger an angry response in a quitter: For instance, typical little things such as finding an empty roll on the toilet paper dispenser, discovering someone's dirty laundry on the floor, coming across dirty dishes in another part of the house, etc., all could NOW send a quitter into that angry zone. When you smoked you might have lit up and maybe said nothing in those situations, maybe even allowed yourself a sigh of exasperation. Now, however, it could send you in a real tailspin. It's demoralizing if you turn into an ogre and don't know how to deal with it. If so, realize that in this situation, you are resorting to anger in response to a small trigger. You are coping with an irritant by getting angry. Something isn't right here, correct? Without a nicotine fix, the next irritant to come along might be added to the mental stack of current irritants, until the quitter either learns to deal with them in a new way, or has an outburst. Dysfunctional anger management? Inadequate communication habits? Quitting is a learning process. In smoking days, some of the time we lit up to cope, and that particular coping avenue is gone now. We have to find other ways. The same irritants exist as before, but upon quitting, the coping mechanism of old is not there. Some quitters will lash out for a while until they learn what is happening to them and how to deal with it. While they are trying desperately to stay quit and focus their attention on dealing with cravings, they may not be aware right away of some of the other things happening to them. Sudden anger is unpleasant and scary for the quitter, not to mention your loved ones, friends and co-workers. Quitters and family alike feel helpless for a little while, amazed (and maybe fearful) at what is happening, at how easy anger rises. It can take a couple of weeks and maybe one memorable outburst to really alert you to stop and take an inventory of sorts. As soon as you can, develop adequate strategies. It may take a while to get everything right, but everyone has to begin somewhere. Do not resort to smoking or chewing! There are ways to deal with it. Gaining control over nicotine addiction involves recovery, which in turn involves self-discovery and self-appreciation, and it is a process of necessary change on many fronts, including how we deal with many things. A quitter who is angry may realize he/she is stressed to begin with. He should try to reduce his stress level, to reduce the bigger things that normally would not make someone feel really angry about an empty paper dispenser. (Maybe annoyed, but angry?) Accepting our own limitations and the limitations of others is part of the discovery to be made. We've actually begun. We understand smokers, we now have a soft spot for them, but don't want to be in their shoes any more, and may dislike being near them. We don't want to condemn them. After all we were once really in their shoes. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/22/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 175 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 7,000 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,190.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 24 [B]Hrs:[/B] 11 [B]Mins:[/B] 23 [B]Seconds:[/B] 7
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very good thread, penguin..thanks for bumping it up. Now, mods...could you please ask IT to restore the individual posts in here to their original glory? Thank you -aloha [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/22/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 175 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 7,000 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,190.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 24 [B]Hrs:[/B] 11 [B]Mins:[/B] 22 [B]Seconds:[/B] 5
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Bump Interesting and Funny. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]7/13/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 62 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 1,240 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $713.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 6 [B]Hrs:[/B] 6 [B]Mins:[/B] 15 [B]Seconds:[/B] 19
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I'm on the SSC IM if you want to talk Parrott Lady.. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 11/7/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 30 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 674 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $165 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 2 [B]Hrs:[/B] 16 [B]Mins:[/B] 46 [B]Seconds:[/B] 32
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A wise lady once wrote: "And self talk is so very important. I believe that some of us use smoking as a way of shielding us from feeling our feelings and I believe that some of us have a low self esteem. It makes a difference if, when you drop a glass and it breaks, you say to yourself, "that was stupid of me" or you say "that was a mistake" and "I'm human, I can make mistakes". Listen to what you say to yourself. Pay attention to the thoughts you think. If you have low self esteem, you will invariably tell yourself negative things. You will berate yourself for things left undone. You will tell yourself you can't do anything right. And IT'S NOT TRUE. If you change your internal dialogue, you will find your life much improved, and in an amazingly short period of time, too. Attitude is EVERYTHING in quitting. Truly. You can make it hard or easy, with your attitude." You wrote this in your 30 Day Ramble. There is a reason you picked self-esteem to present. I'm in a funk too. Just because I'm quitting smoking doesn't mean that my world is gonna be all sunshine. It just means my umbrella has been taken away. Now I'm all lonely for my umbrella, thinking it might stop raining. But, I don't think its gonna. When I've gotten good and soaked, I'll be forced into action. I know this not because I'm motivated but because something's got to give. By quitting smoking, we've stepped outside our lives as we've known them. In doing this we have created the opportunity of a gift. Whether we want to or not our selves are processing our interactions with our world, now with our cigarette filter gone (this can be the depressing part- we may not like what we see). Eventually we will see a way that we would like an experience to happen here or there. If we're honest and open, we'll start to see patterns. If we are courageous we will allow ourselves to re-shape our world and/or our interactions with it. Once we open this gift to ourselves and those who are touched by us (the extent of which is too far-reaching to realize) - it won't be all sunshine even then, but we'll be out of the rain. Anyway, that's what I think today. I may be off base for you but to make a long story short, TOO LATE!-hang in there, we're hanging with you. ;p
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:) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 11/19/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 18 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 187 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $90 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 17 [B]Mins:[/B] 30 [B]Seconds:[/B] 14
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Oh Denise,, I wish I could have been here for you in your time of need. :( But it sounds as though many came to your rescue and that you are doing somewhat better. Anyway,, that reward idea sounds like a very good one and I hope you get something special..or do something special for yourself. ((((((((((((((hugs of support))))))))))))) Monica [url=[IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/Monica58/heart.gif[/IMG]][IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/Monica58/heart.gif[/IMG][/url] [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 10/31/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 37 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 753 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $333 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 4 [B]Hrs:[/B] 2 [B]Mins:[/B] 40 [B]Seconds:[/B] 49
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Oh, I forgot to say, YES WINDY I will join you in Limbo land (but when do we graduate from here?) and I actually am going to buy some track pants suits as my 50 day reward, because I don't have any and I already have dozens of pairs of colored jeans, I can wear track suits to work, and I don't really want to buy a bunch more work pants in a bigger size when I DO NOT INTEND TO STAY THIS WEIGHT for long..... Deep breath....And we have something called "Curves for Women" here that is a workout place just for women and I am thinking of joining that. I just don't know if I'll have time to actually go there enough to make it worth while. But it's not very expensive, so I probably will give it a try, first of the year. So I'll meet you (and anyone else who wants to join us) in the weight threads after the first of the year, too. Anyway, thank you so much to all of you, I can't begin to thank all of you enough for the support and encouragement. I feel soooo much calmer today, hardly any craves at all, and rarely thinking of smoking except when not busy. What a difference! It just goes to show you that the craves really do go away EVEN IF YOU DON'T SMOKE! Denise [IMG]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p300/DeeKaySss/bigeyebird.gif[/IMG] [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 10/16/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 54 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 1,624 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $405 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 6 [B]Hrs:[/B] 7 [B]Mins:[/B] 41 [B]Seconds:[/B] 48
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Well well well! It seems that I have been "hoisted by my own petard" which is roughly translated to mean something along the lines of "judged by my own words". It's really a pirate term and it involves hanging folks, but we won't go there... I have done quite a lot of serious thinking the last 24 hours and I have come up with an idea I'd like to share. If you don't want it, as Imallclear said, TOO LATE! I'm off and typing! If, as I did, you started smoking at an early age, in my case 12, then there are some basic things we learned to do at that age. In human development there is a whole bunch of particular things you learn at that age, but in particular, we learn who we are and what to expect from ourselves in any given situation. With respect to our limited exposure at that age, we go to school and learn how to interact with others, and how to behave and how to deal with emotions and feelings (in an extreemely peer driven environment) and we have huge emotions at that time. Everything in a 12 year old's life is life or death. It is survival instincts. Your best girlfriend whispered to another girl and wouldn't tell you about what, YOU'RE DEVASTATED! You think it's about you! You think she hates you and will never talk to you again! Now, if we start to smoke at this time, it does indeed mask our emotions because instead of being devastated, we don't have time for feelings, we gotta get to the smoking bathroom (the one they never check) in the limited time between classes, we light up and no worries (except how not to get caught smoking in the bathroom). And you get a whole new set of friends, those older kids who also smoke, and feed their habit, and so that's what you learn. You learn from them how to act and how to behave and how to deal with emotions and feelings, from an addict's point of view. I have come to expect certain things from myself as a 52 year old woman, and acting like a 12 year old is NOT one of them. But I think that I have become that 12 year old emotionally, and I have to learn how to act in an adult way, and not as if all issues are survival issues. But most importantly, I have to give myself the gift of tolerance (something most 12 year olds do not have) and allow myself to just BE where I am. I often say to

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