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Gordlover, If I may add to Casey's post~~ For people who experience panic attacks "out of the blue", the actual trigger in panic disorder is the physical sensation itself, which is why it appears to come out of the blue. People with panic disorder begin to pay very close attention to their physical symptoms thereby, noticing the smallest changes in things like their breathing, heart rate or feelings of light-headedness. Once the symptom is noticed, the individual becomes anxious about having a panic attack and pays more attention to the symptom. This leads to a vicious cycle of focused attention and increased anxiety. Wherever you go, your physical sensations go with you, so people with panic disorder experience panic attacks out of the blue. The solution is to work on controlling the catastrophic thinking to break the panic cycle. The other solution is to use the interoceptive exposure exercises that you will find later on in the Panic Program. Basically the idea is that the exposure work you do is exposure to the physical sensations of panic. The situation that you expose yourself to are the actual physical sensations of a panic attack. Hope this helps, Josie ______________________________ The Panic Center Support Team.
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Hey Gordlover! I found the exposure work very difficult to plan also. I also work a full time job and could not find time in the day to set aside for it. But, what I did do is use the exposure work when the moment called for it rather than planning it. For instance, if I found myself at the store standing in line (big anxiety trigger for me) I would use that moment as exposure work. I would normally find someplace to escape to if my husband was with me and could stand in line without me there, or would busy myself with reading the magazines on the shelfs or something like that. So, in using the moment for exposure, I would make myself stay in line and not distract myself with things around the register area and I would allow the fear to happen and just go with it. It wasn't planned, but I knew it was a trigger so it was something that needed to be worked on. It worked very well for me. I'm still working on it, but have noticed huge differences in the situations that were always triggers before. So, even though you can't always plan the panic attack around the exposure work, just use what the program teaches for exposure work when you are in a situation that triggers your panic. Or, just when you're having a panic attack period. I get panic attacks sometimes at work for no apparent reason so rather than running to the bathroom or something, I make myself stay in the situation until the panic lessens and eventually disappears. It is getting easier. Use the tools and the advice taught from the program the best way you can. It doesn't have to be done exactly the way it would be in a perfect world. I find that any exposure work, whether planned or not, still works fabulously. It takes time but you are worth the time it takes! It will work if you keep at it.
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Hi gordlover, Fellow members may be responding soon with their own experiences and advice for completing this session. In the meantime though, try to work the program so that it is most meaningful for you. For example, you say that the attacks are unpredictable, but try to identify a common theme that may be triggering them, i.e. is there a certain time, place, or circumstance. If you can find something similar, you could set your goal around that issue. Remember, there isn't really a right or wrong way to do the steps, just try to make them relate to you as best you can. If you are needing more specific direction, please don't hesitate to contact us directly via the feedback link provided. Regarding support in your area, your family doctor may be a good start. They may be able to help you or direct you to a therapist or counselor specializing in managing panic and anxiety. Casey __________________________________ The Panic Center Support Team
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the program's not going too well, i'm sad to say. the program's all about unlearning fear, and the first part made sense which is to challenge irrational thought. so if you feel panicy or anxious, kind of fight the "catastrophic" thoughts of 'i'm going crazy' or 'i'm going to embarass myself badly' - because these thiings never really happen. but the remainding part of the program is about challenging your fears. setting goals and taking baby steps towards them. the problem is that anxiety attacks are unpredictable. what may be a challenge on day, seems silly the next day. what seems easy one day, is frightening the next. so how do you set goals then? i'm very frustrated, and that's making thnigs worse. i feel like i need a guide, some professional help but there's none available in my area. plus, even if i could set goals. the process is very long and tedious if done right. if you've got a full time job, it's so hard to find a couple of hours a day to do this stuff. and i need someone to help me. but how can you ask anyone to sacrifice 2 hours a day for you?

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