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> It's amazing just how much panic can effect one's > life on so many levels isn't it? Too right!! Tell me about it!! I wish it to the deepest pit of hell!! About the thought thing, two weeks ago I would have said the same thing, it's not thought related. If anything my conscious thoughts go in the opposite direction: this isn't dangerous, I'm not going to die. But I think I'm beginning to realise that there are "thoughts" involved, only they happen so quickly and are so automatic they don't register properly. In a self-help book I was reading this morning the guy said these thoughts happen in tenths of seconds, just like your fight and flight reaction to a tiger would happen in in a split second. And for me they're not proper thoughts with proper words, either. They're more like subliminal pictures and you'd have to slow the whole thought process right down to catch them. Just a flash picture of me home alone in pain, or the panic escalating, or me on a plane not being able to breathe. Sound familiar? I never realised they were there because they come and go so quickly, and the other conscious thoughts have proper words and hang around for much longer. Marianne
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Hi Marianne. Thanks for your response about crying. On the sex thing, I have found the opposite to be true for me anyway. Unfortunately, I seem to fall into the category that the physical symptoms that come along with it trigger my panic. (Not a fun and pleasurable thing anymore. The same holds true for me with feeling cold, getting excited (fun type, joyous excitement), getting too warm and the like. It's become automatic that as soon as my body picks up the feeling like tensing up from the cold, boom...panic happens. It doesn't seem to be thought related to me at these times on any concious level anyway. It's sure taken the fun out of a lot of things though and I do know that I responded by avoiding the good things as well :(. It's amazing just how much panic can effect one's life on so many levels isn't it? Take care.
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Yes, I'm the same. My therapist has asked me to try and cry when I feel bad, and I want to because it would release the tension. I don't normally have problems crying (should have seen me watch The Colour Purple!) but when I'm tense the tears just won't come. Last week when I was feeling rotten at work I actually went to the ladies' room and really really tried, screwed up my face and all, but nothing. Good thing they don't have cameras in there! ;) Hope this won't offend anyone (well, it's natural, without it none of us would be here...) but having sex always helps me. It gives me the same feeling of release that crying does. I think there is a physiological reason for this, if I remember correctly from a class many many moons ago: The autonomous nervous system consists of two parts, the sympaticus and the parasympaticus. Only one of the two can be active at a given time. The sympatic system, using adrenalin as its transmitter, does all the using up of energy, like muscle activity, sweating, making your pulse go faster and constricting your blood vessels. That's the bit that's active when you are panicking. The other bit, the parasympaticus, using insulin, is concerned with restoring and conserving energy, relaxation, digestion, slow pulse, soft muscles, crying and sex. I find that for me fear is stronger than appetite, ie when I'm scared I can't eat, but sex is stronger than panic, ie while I'm having sex I'm not afraid. I wonder if fear, at least for some people, is stronger than crying, and therefore while you are scared you can't cry. Conversely, if you managed to cry you wouldn't be afraid anymore, because one is parasympatic and the other is sympatic, thereby cancelling each other out. Same goes for relaxation techniques, I suppose: if you can manage to get the slow breathing and muscle relaxation going it disables the sympatic reaction. I'll have a look on the Web for a site that explains this a bit more scientifically. As always, sorry for waffling! Marianne
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Hello everyone. This may seem like a "silly" question, but I am wondering if those of you that have panic attacks cry? There are many times when I'm in pretty much a constant anxiety state, or for that matter when I'm having a panic attack and I want to cry and can't. It seems that I simply cannot cry when the other symptoms are going on. The thing about crying is that it does cause a physical release of the tension which then lowers the anxiety but the tears just won't come. Wondering if I am the only one like this or if when the body is in the fight or flight mode if one isn't able to physiologically cry at the same time. I don't cry easily anyway so maybe it is just me but was just wondering if there is a connection of some sort. Thanks for any responses.

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